LL u dont want that fight, ur not a lyrical guy LOL.

ur not even top 5, ur claim to fame is being a rapper since u were like 17. granted ur better then a lot of rappers but ur career is based off of making love songs, now ur a gangsta? LOL. u really think ppl are gonna believe that?

WOW!!!! he cant be serious, Jay will murder his ass!!! old heads always get made when someone comes out after them and does better than they do. he can only beat Jay in looks, and id still fuck with Jay first because he carries himself like a MAN and his swag is amazing!!! LOL

Well it looks like it’s finally gonna happen Cool J vs Jay-Hova but LL needs to know Hov ain’t canibus,Moe Dee, or Ice-T & He might wanna get 50 out his ear before his career gets ended. Nobody’s sayin’ LL ain’t the GOAT but his beef with Jay been a long time commin cause he still salty he didn’t get the def jam job.

This will be interesting

LL will surprise us! watch, this cat ain’t nothing to be fuck with.

old ass nigga

YO YA NIGGAZ BE SUCKING JAYZ DICK HARD….LOL YA TLK BOUT 50 STANS GOD DAMN AND LOOK AT THIS NIGGA TLK BOUT 50 IN LL EAR SUCKN DICK EVEN THOUGH I THINK LL CANT FUCK WITH JAY I THOUGHT THE SAME THING BOUT MY NIGGA CANNIBUS BUT LL WILD ON HIM….LOL ALL I GOTTA SAY IS JAY BETTER WIN CUZ LL AINT GOT SHIT TO LOSE BCUZ EVERY 1 IS EXPECTING JAY TO KILL HIM LL IS ONE OF THOSE TEAMS THAT FUCK YA SHIT UP WHEN UR ON YA WAY TO THE PLAYOFFS

jay is going to kill this nigga

you guys are fucking idiots ll already beat jay-z when they battled each other a while ago im a fan of both but the comments above me are fucking retarded

will be interesting… LL always thrives off of beef… i hope he can still bring it

I like jay Z but he aint really been tested…except with NAS and he lost…BADLY..LL will murder Jay why? Lets start from present and moved backwards Who has Jay Z battled??? NAS who else??? WHo decided to not to battle 2PAC? JayZ and NAS…LL came with I SHOT YA!! hmmmm..(nas in the video)…LL battle JayZ way backin 1991 and lost…Jay Z swagger is what LL had back in 1989 through the just check vids..LL started this shit materialsitc braggim shit…back when JAY was broke and in the hawian sophey video rapping fast under JAZ-O…Who has LL battled..Ice T, kool moe dee,Canibus…shot a subliminal at PAc when Pac was talkin shit…ALL FACTS NOT DICK RIDING…Jay Z dont want it..I am telling you..LL built DEFJAM..not RUNDMC..but LL..with russell’s hype of course…Jay is a great rapper but to call himslef J HOVA is over the top..LL Cool J is an ICON Jay Z is a paper champ..he got money..some power doep skills..BUT that shit dont mean you are the best it just means you got paper..Plus this niggas is same age as LL..if not older…LOL Reason why JAy Z aint battle 2pac?? cause he is a Hoe when it comes to battling..no heart..no energy..
but good business skills…LL lives to battle i think..NIGGAS STAY and he Keep coming back….JAY influenced alot of young folks 22-29 yearolds people but he also took LL bragging after biggy got it..but REA HIP HOP HEADS KNOW HE BENEFITED FROM BIGGY DYING..WHN HIP HOP NEEDED THAT ENERGY…BUT HE AINT BATTL;ED NOBODY!!!!!!

what? Ya’ll think LL cant smack Jay-Z across the face with a couple of stacks or a couple of verses himself. People pleeeeeeeease! LL is a vet, and Jay-Z’s money wont be a issue in the battle. Jay-Z might be more business savy than LL (even though I think Dame Dash is the reason Jay-Z has his other ventures), but being business savy has nothing to do with beaing an M.C. and i think LL could take on this battle and win.

ll will murder jayz the same way nas did and by the way ll and jayz are the same age!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Will be real interesting…..I am a Jay-Z fan, but also respect LL…..both can bring it…..just gotta see who brings it more. Time will tell….

L.L. Cool J. is hard as hell
Battle anybody I don’t care who you tell
I excel, they all fail
I’m gonna crack shells, Double-L must rock the bells!

I hope J put this nigga to rest. please!

Jay-Z >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> LL Cool J

Don’t sleep on LL folks. Don’t think for one moment Jay wasn’t offended by the doofie comment L made on the Queens song with G-Unit. Jay didn’t like the comment at all because he told Angie. LL still has the experience(over 20 years) and lyrical skill necessary to hurt Jay. Look how some of you now say, “Jay’s new single is wack.” LOL. It will be a good battle because I happen to like both artists. But, don’t sleep on LL.

Cmon People beef is not anymore about throwing jabs at each other but about numbers …
just watch Kanye Vs 50 cent , that’s the new type of beef…
Jay-z vs ll Nov 6

LL never lost a battle. and he was the underdog in all of them. jay z lost the only one he had. i got my money on LL. lyrical ain’t nothing when you got punch lines. and errbody got punch lines on jay all day.

LL MUST BE ON THE SAME BULLSHIT 50 ON.. NY NEEDS TO STOP THE BULLSHIT AND GET BACK IN THE LAB AND MAKE GOOD HIP HOP..

c’mon LL he makes love songs now if u think jay is old what u think ll is nergo is a grandpa i really don’t wanna listen 2 ll battle jay its just dumb, my dude LL was hot in the 80 and early 90’s leave the game he is not a GOAT he gave him self that name he a legend yes GOAT,no lo get ur head sprung c’mon guys LL was hot now just those every thing he can to try 2 stay hot

and look at this old as vj he like 45

I can’t see the video…
can sum1 put up the link/url?
thanx

LOL yooo

jay battled LL in ‘91 and LOST

to me honestly i felt that the takeover/ether thing was a tie. nas dissed hov 4 his looks, and that un situation but jay dissed nas for falling off badly. that was a tie to me.

LL and hov are icons in this business but jay is TOP 5. he’s just made he was never offered the deal to be president of def jam but the thing is, LL wasnt even relevant at the time that hov got that offer. hov was FRESH off the Black Album. as far as LL being salty he needs to sit down. his last album was pure trash that’s not jay-z’s fault. u had 2 fucking vids before ur shit even dropped. the J.Lo record was horrible “zzz zzz zzzz zzz” LOLOL. when jay dropped ‘kingdom come’ he didnt use def jam, he did ventures with various business. if u get 2 vids before ur album drops that’s all the promotion u need. LL u been rapping longer then all these guys stop acting like a lil baby, niggas dont have to hold ur hand when ur album drops. get out there and make sum of ur own moves.

wrote that wrong, jay battled LL in ‘91 and LL lost
jay also battled busta and dmx in the early 90’s and beat those 2 as well BUT granted that was young jay.

LL is a legend but jay is top 5. the only way LL can beat jay would be in a modeling contest.

lol the thing is LA Reid isnt gonna let jay diss one of his artists. if this battle does go down and if this battle is purely on lyricism, LL u cant keep up cuz ur not all that lyrical to begin with.

LOL it’s jus funny to me that a dude that has made a career out of love songs is residing to beef to drop an album. sounds familiar

im not a Jay-z dickrider at all, i just dont think LL can beat him. just because u won before doesnt mean u’ll always win

oh yea, co sign FERN

50 doesnt have another marketing scheme huh?

I think Todd’s pretty darn good at battling. But honestly, what can he say… Jay’s better lyrically and he has more money, and Todd’s been in the game since the Beginning of the game. LOL

Entertaining - Yes.

Dont nobody wanna see or hear these old ass niggas battle. Thats like watching Bill Russell and Bill Walton play one on one. I rather watch Kobe and Lebron myself. Pls dont give this shit no hype. This is not helping NY come back at all, its actually making it look like a joke out there.

I don’t know if LL has that “Ether” that Nas gave to Jay….

Nas gave JayZ an old school whooooooooop ass on that song….

“…Rockafeller died of Aids, and thats who you named you company after..” - Nas

Can LL do the same? It’ll be interesting

Ton of cats think that J will eat cool J! A ton of you need to go back and check his resume! Sometimes a person needs
a jab to fuel the fire and I think J just did that!! Cool J
may not be the most lyrical but if there is one thing about this Queens guy he will chase Jay around the 76th floor of that building if he has too.

Negro plz!!!!!!!!!! Nigga u aint ready for war with Hov that nigga will murder u while he on vacation. Nigga go around taking credit for ending Canibus career, u aint end shit that dude just wasnt able to make album hits. But in my opinion u lost fam. Dont do it to urself son stay away from Hov he’ll murder LL

***ALL I HAVE 2 SAY IZ THAT LLCOOLJ IZ HARD AS HELL…LMMFAO…THAT DUDE IZ FUNNY AS HELL…LL DID HIS THING IN DUH DAY BUT IT’Z A DAY NOW. HE NEEDZ 2 SIT HIS OL ASS DOWN B4 HIS BLOOD PRESSURE GO UP…LOL…DUDE IN HIS 40′Z AND TAWKIN LIKE HE WANT DRAMA***

I dont care who wins, but I do hope this brings hip hop back.

@OLA: I thought you were one of the dudes in here who knows what the fuck they are talking about but I might of taken a L. Jay battled LL, Busta, and X before? When did this happened? Please stop making up hip hop events. You seen the cipher between Jay and X at his backstage tour? Who was the victor in that battle? Who had the most oohs and ahhs?

Why is everyone saying Jay started it with the i get money remix. Didnt LL cool J diss him first with the Queen song, that he did with 50 cent.

I’ve got respect for LL because he’s a legend but he don’t want it with Hov nooo.

How is GOAT next stop isthe billy going at LL??? someone explain?

X killed Jay at that freestyle. But nothing beats that 7 min freestyle he did with Big L.

LL vs. Jay-Z = Hulk Hogan vs. Randy Macho Man Savage. SMH at this shit.

Sidenote: SOULJA BOY LEAKED!

i co sign the shit out of #40flex is a sucka!!!

that was the shit right there, i think im gonna listen to that now, thanks

Opponent: LL Cool J
Location: Outside the Shelter nightclub in New York
Circa: Early ’90s

N—as was hungry. We was on the come-up, and we didn’t think nobody could f— with us lyrically. It was me, Jay and Jaz-O. We went to [producer] Clark Kent’s birthday party. Wu-Tang Clan was there. I think B.I.G. performed “Party and Bullsh–” that night. We were supposed to get on [the mic] and we couldn’t get on to perform. We was heated just looking for something to get. We was so frustrated trying to get on [in the industry]. We were just at every function trying to catch rep. We were doing whatever we felt we needed to do to make a name in the street.

We seen that LL came out with his man. I think the only person that might have known L was Jaz. I think him and Jaz were feeling a way about each other at that time. We just called him out respectfully. He was actually walking down the block and I think Jay shouted out, “Yo, what up n—a? Let’s do it.” I got a lot of respect for LL because he was on … He was getting it. But because of his love for the game he came and battled with all of us. Like, “Y’all wanna do it? Let’s do it.”

Three n—as like us? Witty like that and hungry? I respect the effort that he put forth, but no n—a would have had wins that night. Jay set it off on him. Jay said a whole bunch of just incredible sh–. If I heard that rhyme today I’d probably try to steal that sh–.

I remember at one point L walked away and his man was like, “Nah son, you can’t walk away, you gotta finish this sh– off.” Then he came back and he went for his. I wouldn’t have paid to be L that night. I respect the fact that he came and he went for his.

— by Shaheem Reid

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u motherfuckers dont remember the LL vs. Canibus battle???

canibus fucked his shit up…..wit one song…..and Jay is gonna do the same…..LL has gone soft over the past years, no not years, decade, haha he should stick to making bitch songs

I think honestly if you take the money out of the picutre and you went skill for skill I think LL will eat Jay. For people who don’t know the history. LL Cool J has a track record on his resume for battling so don’t be surprise if Jay takes the L in battling… Jay has to battle LL without talking about how much doe he gots and all of that

In my eyes there aint even a discussion no fuckin competition…jay got it. LL had it bt that was a loooooong time ago.

@ SIN CITY

homie, u a cool dude but U gotta do ur research. jay has said it before that he battled and beat DMX at sum pool hall a long ass time ago. there was a vid on youtube of dmx and jay battling standing on pool tables. he used to battle busta in high skool and said they both beat each other and numerous occasions. he also battled LL at sum party or suttin like dat one of LL’s early concerts and beat him as well….trust me this is all the truth. niggas know. LL is a legend and i have ALL THE RESPECT in the world for that man and i wish him well but i jus dont see him beating jay.

this is not bout money this is purely bout respect. if LL can jus stay on par then it’s a win 4 him. if jay bodies him, then its kind of a loss cuz jay has to make sure ppl buy LL’s album regardless. how can u push somebody’s album when they trying to diss u. if LA Reid lets Hov spit this will be an epic battle but in no way that JAY/NAS type shit cuz dat battle was the greatest LYRICAL battle ever. i rememeber jay said he had made a pac diss song but when he was ready 2 release it, pac got popped lol. still would’ve loved to see biggie battle jay or nas or respond back to pac.

LL can battle but i dont think hes not on the level that jay, nas, biggie were on. i jus dont see it happening but if LL were to win, more power to him

@OLA: Jay never defeated X homie. Jay vs. Busta did use to take place at Westinghouse, that I remember. Lil Kim use to be in it too. As for the LL vs. Jay at 91, this I’ll admit I didn’t know. My hip hop game is always on point, but it look like I had a off night. Shit is bothering me how I never heard of this battle.

Jay vs. LL will be a epic battle. That’s all I’m saying. A lot of people thinks it will be one-sided but LL been the underdog before and still came out on top. Overall, I’ll give this to Jay.

jay dont want a battle wit LL, after ether jay been avoiding confortations wit rappers

@50: How retarded are you? Jay didn’t go at Dipset? He didn’t take a shot at Game and whoever was taking subliminal shots at him? There’s even a track with him spitting at Wayme.

*Wayne

#44
why take money out of the picture. Thats like telling super man if you take flying out the picture he sucks as a super hero.

LL been catering to women in his music and doing movies for how long now. Muisc is like a muscles to artist. You stop exercising your legs and just do arms, your going to naturally loose strength. This is why jay-z lost a lot of fans. He went boyfriend/business man too long and lost touch with his audience.

Take Over Part2 Jay vs LL

It does sound iconic LL COOL J verses Jay-z… but ll aint lyrical so he should states comments like “He think he’s the greatest…I know im the greatest, hiphop is competitive if it wasnt we woudnt be here with all this success today” and keep it moving…he shouldnt go in and try to battle jay.

Wow… That old ass reporter type nigga was suckin LL’s dick OD!!! Corny ass nigga… Where they find him at?

and yes if you really do your history Jay never beat DMX in that infamous battle even Damon Dash at that time even said that DMX got Jay back then and that was his right hand back then….

hov is gonna verbally ass rape the everloving shit out of LL.
I dont remember the last gangster song LL did, besides that horrid posse cut with fag unit. H.O. is just on another level than old boy. Tell his ass to go back to “love u better”

Anybody that says LL is an old cat and Jay Z isn’t. Isn’t paying attention at all.

Just because Jigga came out later doesn’t make him any fresher and definitely not any more creative (reference “I’m not a biter).

Let’s see how this thing plays out and remember this whole thing reeks of McMahon….Vince that is.

off topic, i miss the old DMX. man

YALL REALLY THINK JAY GOT THIS…WELL YALL NEED TO THINK AGAIN..ITS OBVIOUS MOST OF YALL REALLY DONT KNOW…NOW THAT REAL TALK…

jay aint dis him he said he already the GOAT next stop is the BILLI as in billion hes tryng to get a billion dolalrs yall think to much of stuff

Yall niggas is some jay dickriders. LL may make love songs and the rest but he will take it back to his old days if he has too, and in the process he will get real lyrical. You act like canibus isn’t on point lyrically and wordplay wise.

After canibus dropped 2nd ko, which was a great diss track look what happened. Niggas thought LL was done, then he went to the studio and recorded The ripper strikes back which destroyed cannibus. When I heard it I was like damn, LL just went lyrical. You dudes are sleeping on ll.

And OLA, you stay quoting some bullshit sometime fam. You said ether was only about Jay’s looks? Not it wasn’t, a portion of the song was about Jay’s looks, yes. The other portion had Nas mentioning Jay swagger jacking BIG repeatedly, as well as Nas. It talked about how Hov wanted Nas on his first album, but Nas refused and Jay sampled his voice anyways. It talked about Jay using the Blueprint Name after kRS one. Ether also mentions how dame and jay z aspired to be Big and diddy in a sense. Dame was like diddy. It talks about Hawaian Sophie fame, when Jay was dancing around before he became famous, also talks abotu how he was on Jaz dick but then he turned his back on Jaz. Talks about how jay been wanting the thone ever since Big left. He talks about jay going commercial after hsi classic RD, “you traded your soul for riches”. He also makes a point that he was cool with jay at some point in time. Talks about how em was lyrically supirior on renegade. etc

See, OLA, listen to the song next time, becuase it talks about alot fam. At the end of the day Jay and Nas are in the TOP 5 dead or alive. They are both canidates for GOATS. SO its all good.

^^^^^so true, niggas get high, log on and let the overanalyzing begin. niggas be actin like Jay is sooooo deep, the shit is funny

Co-sign w/ #16. LL doesn’t really want it with Hov.

LL GON GET COOKED FIRST HAND!………LOL,…….50 GASS NIGGAS UP DAS MY WERD!!!!!!!!!

Jay will most likely win but it sure will be interesting. BTW….LL’s “Hey Lover” is the best hiphop love song of all time.

BIG Pun would eat both of them, but out of respect he would never battle LL.
Also one D LL would crush him…..

They battled once before when Jay was trying to get on back in the day. Don’t sleep on LL just because he be on that lovey dovey shit, do your history he’s battled alot of cats and killed them.

They battled once before when Jay was trying to get on back in the day. Don’t sleep on LL just because he be on that lovey dovey shit, do your history he’s battled alot of cats and killed them. I don’t care anyway shits tired. HB!

Jay-Z>>>>>>>>LL Cool J.

I got respect for LL but Jay would murda him like he did to Nas! Everybody say Nas won but Jay kept it real and murdered Nas about his rap career and all Nas talked about was Jay’s looks which was corny.

Jay-Z = G.O.A.T!

This would’ve been good probably 10 years ago, but now…who cares? Besides, 99% of LL fans wear high heels.

Nas talked about Jay-Z’s career too

From shawn carter to jay-z damn you on JAZ(JAZ-O)dick//
-Nas

In 88 you was getting chased to ya building//-Nas

No jail bars jigga no pies no cakes, just hawain shirts hanging with lil’ chase//-Nas

the only thing you young ignorant punks are missing is clown shoes

whoa..lots of Jay-Z dickryders in this bitch!!!
anyway, that would be a great battle!!

@38,nevermind the billi line because he’s just saying he’s trying to get billions,the focus is the G.O.A.T. part.

LL Cool J named himself the G.O.A.T. so when Jay says he’s the G.O.A.T.he’s not acknowledging LL as that.

@50,I don’t recall Jay avoiding battles after ether unless you mean Dipset because none of them are on Hov’s level.Even Nas ignored Dipset.
Lil’ Wayne was taking shots at Jay for a while but notice once Hov’s replied with that watch what you say to me verse,not another word has come out of Lil Wayne’s mouth like he got put on punishment in a corner.

i cant front LL holds it down but jays lyrics are a lil 2 complex for LL. also Jazo beat LL in a battle before n jay n LL battled before n jay took it so it wont be hard for jay to take it again. jay is lyriclly better, more richer n his swagg is higher than ll’s. LL only sells records cause of his body think about it

Im tired of niggas sayin nas murdered jay. if nas really murdered jay then y is he workin for him now. jay gonna manslaughter LL fool J

OK YALL ARE THE MOST RETARDED PEOPLE EVER

that line isnt that hard to understand

ever heard the term billygoat???? hes sayin im already the goat, now its time to become the billy, u fuckin get it now????? wow you guys are some thick ass motherfuckers, i swear…..

btw, thats a sick line by jigga…..haha

lol @ niggas bringing up the 1991 battle. 1991 was 16 years ago. Some of you niggas reading this wasn’t even born yet.

billy stands for billion??? HAHAHA WOW U GUYS HAVE LOW EXPECTATIONS FOR JAY…..OR JUST TOO STUPID TO GET THE LINE, IF U WANNA ENJOY LISTENIN TO JAY, U GOTTA BE ON THE SAME LEVEL OF INTELLIGENCE….LMAO

Co-Sign 25&26 “OLA”,you sound like a nigga how know what your talking bout…Com’on man the lyrical thing aint 4 LL…he makes love songs &shit like Mama said knock you out!!!LL aint been relavent sense then or was it when he was the track w/prodigy,fox etc…..&his shit was even the hottest on dat track..Fuckin pink cookies n a plastic bag gettn crushed by buildings as nigga,F outta here..Please tell me ya’ll heard his most recent verse on the Queens shit w/P,50 &em……Trash!!!! this nigga is IRRELEVANT&I’m from Queens..I respect’em n all&i was actually told that he was related to me n all dat..so how i sound not taken up for fam??? I sound like a nigga that know the diff btw nice&trash..nice he’s not!!!! HOVA da God…”no question ,Jay-z got too many answers”,”I’m allready the goat nigga,next stop is a Billy”…

#65 wTF does big pun have to do with this,ya’ll niggaz be soundin crazy on here sometimes man!!!!

i think OLA doesnt knw shit about rap… first u say ll is not lryical .. and he makes loves songs.. just because he makes loves songs doesnt mean hes not lyrical , people make songs for there fans.. just like 50 makes soft songs sometimes because thats what his fans want to hear. that doesnt mean ll cant switch it up .. ll took out what people thought was the most lyrical rapper at the time cannibus.. ended his career.. OLA u dont knw rap history.. ur in to kanye and the new generation… like ll said.. the new generation doesnt knw his past.. all yall new generations clowns bow wow age and the females are what killing hip hop

LL needs to spear himself the embarrassment, get a modeling gig and sit his sexy, roided ass down…He don’t want it with HOV…HOV would eat LL for breakfast, lunch and dinner…

…Don’t play yourself LL…stay in the cut like you’ve been doing…

the fact that ll is an artist under the company that jay run makes him a LOSER. how the fuck you damn near 40 years old and aint put none of your niggas on. and for the people who say jay started it are idiots, LL was the one calling niggas goofy or doofy or some shit like that. if i was hov i would slap him with a thousand dollar bill and keep it movin.

#13 how u gonna claim nas murdered jay?!?

i’m the first to say ether and to some extent the “h to the omo”-freestyle were way better diss records than what takeover and super ugly - but come on, jay slept with nas baby momma and then signed him to his label as a peace treaty… to be real about it jay brought nas career back to life with their beef (keep in mind his last album before the beef was nastradamus, he was completely gone) and he brought him back again with the peace concert… nas may have won that battle but jay definitely won the war…

LL is gonna try to us this opportunity to get hott, it’s already working because we would all not have been talking about this guy if Jay wasn’t associated. Jay didn’t even diis this dude, and he knows it, all rappers consider themselves the greatest, Kanye said it, why don’t he get at Kanye. make yourself hott if your the greatest you wack ass. if was Jay, I’d learn from the mistakes of making Jim hott and not even see this nigga. To tell you how irrelevant he is, who is the dude interviewing him??? Huh??

Im tired of niggas sayin nas murdered jay. if nas really murdered jay then y is he workin for him now. jay gonna manslaughter LL fool J

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Stop being a ignorant kid, do you even know how the music business works fam? Jay z is a figurehead at defjam, hes the pres, but someone still signs his check, his contract is up at the end of the year. He has a position, but he doesnt sign Nas’s checks, someone above Jay signs nas’s checks. These white people like Cohen and Iovine are the ones who really sign peoples checks in this industry. Behind every successful rapper is a white man making omney off of him. Nas has a joint venture with columbia records and defjam. He doesn’t work for jay literally, you need to learn about def jam.

lol yaa im sure u got into rap music in 2003

LL has made a career out of love songs, NOW ur hard, we dont believe u, u need more ppl

Jay aint Canibus, period.
if ur not a lyrical rapper how do u beat a rapper who is a lyricist? fiddy tried it w/ jadakiss and he got eatin alive.

like Nas said, ‘ur arms are too short to box with God.’ LOL

LL will give jay a run for his money. Come on, ya forget what he did to that lyrical nigga Canibus, after Canibus came real hard at him. And plus both these niggas is old ass mufuckas. one pushin his 40’s, and one about to turn 40.

i hope this shit pops off…both of em are ill…im not callin any winners just yet.. LL can be a beast when he wants to… even tho canibus tore that nigga apart IMO.

I don’t know about LL did anybody listen to his last record???
Trash!!! But L was a beast when it came to battles but it’s 07 not 87 not 97 time to take his L…….. pun intended.

“you guys dont want it with hov, ask L he’s a confused asshole!!”

wowowowowow, i cant believed he called out jay

he will get slaughtered

i dont think jay will do nething, unless ll comes first

it will be good promo for ll thou

Homie with comment #42 cited a great incident that occurred between LL and a young Jay-Z. However, even after that, them 2 niggas never really rocked with eachother and have taken subliminal jabs at eachother.

Case in point: During the whole height of the “Big Willie Era” during the mid to late 90’s (ushered in by the likes of Biggie and Jay-Z … mainly) a public backlash took place, most notably the Roots’ classic video “What They Do”. LL Cool J felt a way about the way things were going as well … but for different reasons.

See, he tried that fly shit in the early 90’s with “Walk Like A Panther” and he was shitted on by everybody … niggas aint wanna see the limos and the Moet and the ice like that back then. A few years later though and it was a different story … a hustler’s story.

Anyway, Jay-Z took offense to LL portraying himself as the smooth nigga that takes the hustler’s wifey from underneath his nose in the video for the song “Who Do You Love” featuring Total. Jay-Z felt like he was trying to get at him a little bit … nothing too serious, so he took a shot back LL. Do yourself a favor and download the classic remix to R&B group Shai’s single “Be Alone” featuring Jay-Z. Son’s entire last verse starting with “You Think I aint see the lame creeping through the backdoor … and ending with Player hater/not at all/I don’t play those games/you got beef with Jigga/nigga/say my name … you shy?” is meant for LL Cool J in reference to the “Who Do You Love” video. That’s a jewel for yall. This aint new. Now you know.

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I was a fan of LL back in the day but i dont think he killed Canibus….Canibus just cant make hit records…..I dont think LL can get at Jay either….What can he say that we havnt heard already from Nas or Camron? Call him ugley? Its been done already….
Oh and if anyone does research LL and Jay did battle back in the day but some say LL won and others say Jay won…I heard Jay and DMX was more like a draw…And Busta himself said he battled Jay in high school and lost….Also Jay did have a diss song for Tupac that he performed at the Apollo back in the day but never released it since Pac was killed…Jay also battled Jayo felony, Mase, and I’m sure others i dont know about for those who say he only battled Nas……..Overall the battle will benefit LL more than Jay cause no one is checking for him anymore………

that nigga needs to stop lickin his lips B..no homo…he should be a lipgloss model or sum shit…hahaa!

I had LL first album which was Radio 1985,so I consider myself a fan of rap music. I can admit LL killed the Mc,s of his day,but too think he could get at HOV you gotta be kidding me. For the record Cannibus killed LL if it wasn’t for Wyclef fucking his production up his album could’ve done something,don’t beleive me I had his first album too. The shit he said was crazy- I battle you in a stolen car with the VIN # stripped out drinking a guiness stout doing a 360 spin out. - Getting so high whenever I drop shit it’ll land on the window of your airplane cockpit. If anybody think LL can kill HOV give me the hardest verse just 1 measley verse from LL. And i’ll give you one of numerous J shit yall remember that shit dont lie. For the record the G.O.A.T is RAKIM ALLAH.

lol ya true, rakim at wut age 45 will kill ANYBODY. im 20 so i had to do research on rakim, that was one bad dude. he even had the best verse on that nike song

‘timeless, so age don’t count in the booth, when your voice stay submerged in the fountain of youth’

FIRST OFF…IM SICK OF ALL THIS NAS SERVING JAY SHYT…NAS WAS TALKING BOUT HIM FOR HIS LOOKS…BUT JAY NUTTED IN THAT NIGGA FIANCE MOUTH?…COME ON NOW…AND MADE A HIT SONG ABOUT IT…LMAO…KILL THAT DISCUSSION…SECOND OFF…LL AINT GOT IT NO MOR TO BE FUCKIN WIT JAY…PERIOD…POINT…BLANK

@ 82,

Jay’z signed Nas to Def Jam so Nas works for him.

Until Jay leaves Def Jam,he’s still gonna be cutting Nas checks like a boss should.

If they did battle, I’d have to give it to LL. I mean, battlin’ is what that dude does best…

sooo sik OF THA JAY Z DICK RIDERS THIS NIGGAS IS SO OVERATED FO REAL NAS KILLED OLD HEAD HOV DONT WANT IT wit jada or eminem as far as nigas livin (i aint gona talk bout how pun was gonna eat this clown n how big l would take his food on tha mic) hov=most overated fan driven legend ever .n i sat legend as in this nigga is remebered as somethin he wasnt his story grown wit every simple 16 just cuz niggas b on his dik he could spit nething n niggas on here (not in real life) b like damn jay killin it nigga please that blue magic shyt is average at best hov fails to impress me eminem jada should give em tha business

im soooo sik of tha hov dick riders fo real this nigga hove=the most overated lyrcist ever n please take a step bak niggas n take jays dk out ya mouths sayin his corny sayns such as men lie women lie numbers dont-damn niggas how many trime u gonna say that shyt yall niggas act like his shyt is from tha bible or somethin fuk outta here eminem or jada would give this nigga the business n i aint gonna bring how he didnt want it wit pac into it or how biggie killed the nigga on tracks or how eminem killed him on renegADE OR HOW PUN WAS BOUT TO GET AT THIS NIGGA N DESTROY HIM ETC ETC HOV IS HAS ONLY BATTLED NAS N LOST THE NIGGA DIDNT EVEN TRY TO GIVE CAM N JIMMY AN ETHER…LOL SEE ETHER THATS A SAYING THATS HOW BAD HOV GOT KILLED NIGGAS SAY HE GOT ETHERED

CO SIGHN 94 N 95 LOL

LL NEEDS TO STOP IT. THIS IS WHAT HOV WANTS. HE IS GONNA PUT LL’S CAREER TO BED. FINALLY. BECAUSE DUDE BEEN RAPPING OR SHOULD I SAY SLAVING FOR DEF JAM SINCE 1985. NEVER HAD A CEO POSITION IN THE COMPANY. DUDE BEEN TRYING TO PUT OUT HIS CLOTHING LINE SINCE WAY BACK. AND STILL NOTHING. WHAT BETTER WAY TO PROMOTE HIS AMERICAN GANGSTER CD OUT IN NOVEMBER. HUH!!!!!!!!!

HOV IS A CLEVER STRATEGICAL INDIVIDUAL.

c dats wat i mean 97 how is hov a clever strate…..wateva the fuk u trna say u makin it seem like he fuk a army generaL fuk outta here this nigga gets too much credit hov didnt do shyt but throw a jab if dat ll is the one thats gonna make the move n honesly this battle gonna b wak both these niggas 62 n shyt rap beef is corny less its from tha streets or its 2 super lryical dudes i swear rap is the new wwf so fake niggas need to act they age not they shoe size fo real how both these niggas look 57 n shyt goin in a booth n talkin bout each oither like the 12 n shyt cmon now

number one and 2

what are you talking about? ll cool j s been around waaay longer than jay-z. Doesn’t matter if he’s not number one.

Is this dude crazy? Jay-Z will not only end his career but he will show LL why his last album on did 60,000. Yo LL you are done! Come see my people on 145 for that smoke you know we always had you and we still got you. This dude has to be back on them green tops going at the king. YO Dre I see you get at me BK Ent We takin over Charlotte.

yall must not realize dat LL is a legend himself, pac even admitted to lookin up to LL, hov wont shit when Pac was liven but LL been doin dis for over 20 yrs

@ 82,

Jay’z signed Nas to Def Jam so Nas works for him.

Until Jay leaves Def Jam,he’s still gonna be cutting Nas checks like a boss should.

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Your a dumbass, do u read my posts or do you skim through them? Jay doesnt sign anyones checks. He gets paid for being pres though. Go talk to someone who knows how the record business works lil nigga. The white folks the one really signing checks.

international hov i told u so/
40/40’s out in tokyo

ll’s jus mad cuz jay got all these checks comin in, hp, budweiser, rocawear, 40/40, gmc, reebok..shit too many to name

and all ll got is some lip gloss shit that hasnt even come out yet hahaha

tell that niggga to go bak to in the house or whatever that gayass show was called…real gs dont do sitcoms

american gangster nov 6…hov gona show all these haters wassup

Somebody give Tod Smith a couple of shovels to dig himself a hole,he is about to bury himself.

First week sales for Tod Smith will probably be in the number of maybe 35,000 if that…lol

o yea i forgot to add 114—go head bur ya self nigga dig a hole……damn yall niggas love some wack hov quotables nething he say yall l eat up n repeat netime u cAn i guess…men lie women lie….yea yea we know fuk outta queer

ll in a bad position
everything that could be said bout jay has been said a million times and nothing stuck dude is still handling his biz

ll on the other hand could get shitted on numerous ways
dude works for hov after being in the game longer than him
his album bricks continuously
he trying to ride g unit cotails and gunit is in decline
its known that ll has ghost writers
he trying to be gangster now after bombing out as a lover man
he looks ridiculous trying to dress like he 20
all his movies brick

the dudes a bum he should just rest on his legend an let it be
jigga man is battle tested plus he dont give a fukk bout ll like he cared about nas..jigga man just gonna disect him like a flea and laugh all the way to the bank further solidifying his legacy

All I can say as a Hip-Hop fan all of my 34 years, I know the history and LL has never been nothing to fuck with. Although, I must admit Jay is to much for LL at this point of his career.

LL Cool J, just “Lost One”.

Nigga, Jay is president of Def Jam you can’t even battle that right there. LL been in the game over 20 years bitching about niggas aint doing his marketing right, fuck outta here.lol

Like I said wright a fucking eulogy for Tod Smith

if LL know whats good for him… he should take those shots from jay.. lol if this shits pop off… LL’s career will be done (or whats left of it)

@112,

You can’t even have a conversation without throwing tantrums.

Jay-z’s cutting the checks at Def Jam and Nas checks is one of them.

Step your maturity game up then reply.

Jay-z’s cutting the checks at Def Jam and Nas checks is one of them

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How can you question my maturity when you believe something as stupid as that? Jay Z is top 5 dead or alive just like Nas, and I love Jay but you gotta learn some basics about the industry and Def Jam.

First off Jay Z is a figurehead, do you know what exactly the president at Def Jam does?? Just because he has the presidential position doesn’t mean he’s the one cutting out checks. When you work at a store your manager accumliates the total of whatever you punched in and send it to the headquarters, or accounting office. Then the managers get the checks back and hand them to you.

Jay isn’t paying anyone out his pocket, and he doesnt own defjam so why would he sign Nas’s check? Especially when Nas has a joint venture with columbia.

The same dude signing jays check is the same dude signing Nas’s check.

This aint no hate or nothing just a civl argument fam.

civil*

personally i hope this doesnt happen, as a hov fan i am obligated to say that no one rapper in the game can defeat him, he is head and shoulders above the rest.
he’s so far ahead of these dudes,
when they battle him, they get the benefit for battling a legend.
if i fight mike tyson, or ball wit micheal jordan, and i get a punch in, or score a basket, i will get madd props.nevermind tha fact that i got knocked the fuck out, or lost 21-1 to mike, i still took the challenge.
whoever battles hov gets props just for goin in the ring.
thats realtalk
p.s. ll is a legend, u can diss his love makin blueprint, his sitcom,movies, fubu. whatever he did , he did it big and he did it first, that dont give him the right to always be the goat, or an asshole cuz he’s finished, or get botox to compete wit the youth, but he’s a legend, and he gets a pass. hov for once in your life, brush’em off

DAMNN LL CAME RIITE AT HIM..

“DERS A LOT OF PAPER CHAMPIONS FRONTIN” .. LOL O0 WOW CANT WAIT 4 DISS..

yawn…..lonnnnng,boring n drawn out!!!

125 hov called hes gonna need his nuts out ya mouth lol i guess u neva heard of jadakiss or eminem huh cmon hov is not battle tested nas showed the flaws in hovs game n jada is 10x more lyrical then hov fuk record sales n all dat business on tha mic jada muah will eat this niggas food n eminem .the white boy is a beast best battle rapper aliv n maybe best rapper alive fo real em is in a down slump but stil he shyt right now -the reu p tracks n such r ove hovs lyrically i think if u break it down n battlein.please eminem is over ne1 n every one wen it comes to dat he dun showed u dat in da past

UH-OH!!! THEY DONE WENT AND DONE IT..I’VE READ EVRY SINGLE COMMENT ON THIS VIDEO..AND I AGREE WITH NUMBER 5..YOU GUYS ARE REAL DUMB TO THINK THAT JAY-Z CAN FUCC WIT LL..DON’T U NUMB NUMBS FORGET THAT LL COOL J WAS THE 80′S JAY-Z AND CAN RIPP U A NEW ASSHOLE IF YOU DARE TEST..I BEEN WAITING FOR THIS FOR A LONG TIME..THIS WILL BE BETTER THAN ANY BATTLE BETWEEN RAP SUPERSTARS SINCE BIGGIE AND PAC..THE BAD PART IS..IS THAT THEY BOTH FROM NY..BUT LL CAN MAKE LOVE SONGS FOR THE LADIES CUZ HE ALREADY BEEN SUCCESSFUL BUT DON’T GET IT TWISTED..ITS ON..AND WHILE YA’LL TALKING THAT SHIT..NOTICE NO ONE HAS TAKEN A SHOT AT LL..SINCE CANIBUS AND WE ALL HE’S NO JAY BUT IT DOESN’T MATTER..THIS BATTLE WILL REALLY BRING NY HIP HOP BACC.. AND U SEE HOW CONFIDENT LL IS ABOUT THIS..THIS HAS NOTHIN WIT 50..THIS IS ABOUT DEF JAM AND RESPECT AND LONGEVITY IN THE GAME RECOGNIZE..ALL YOU TRUE HIP HOP FANS KNOW THE DEAL WIT THIS..ANYBODY WHO THINKS OF LL AND THINK OF JUST LOVE SONGS DOES NOT KNOW HIP HOP PERIOD!! YOU BETTER TAKE A LISTEN TO ALL HIS OTHER TRACKS FROM YEARS PAST AND PRESENT PERIOD.

yall some dumb fucks…hell ya jay was throwing a wrench at ll..yall some some real dumb fucks to think other wise..stupidity is a mother…

@123,

so according to you Jay-z is not cutting checks.
He’s not overseeing Nas projects.
He just gets paid $3M/year to sit behind a desk and enjoy his title as the president of Def Jam.

Alright then,you win and I rest my case.

Getting Guap I know what jays salary is, more power to him.

But you gotta know how this record business works, every rapper has a different contract at def jam, Nas has a joint venture with both sony and columbia.

until u get me someone that works at defjam, or jay z to say he’s signing nas’s checks I can’t agree with you. U dont work at def jam and I dont, so for now Im not beleiving that. I still say the person who signs jays check signs nas’s check. But yes jay does overlook projects on def jam and he gets bonuses based on their success.

but like I said Jay aint signing nas’s checks, think about it fam, jey gets payed by someone too.

125 aka The king u a stan, you can’t expect no one to respect your opinion with that bullshit. I don’t understand how a grown man can sit here and worship another man like he ever did something for you. Its an infatuation, something like when little girls love bow wow, only in your case it’s jay z, and to be honest a grown man dickriding another grown man is suspect.

How can jay be head and shoulders above every rapper? Your disrespecting Nas, Rakim, Big, who all had equal amount of classic material, intelligent rhymes, and lyricism fam. If jay is a legend then nas is a legend.

The thing about you hov dicriders is that you lov the dude so much you show no respect to any other rapper.

Wasn’t hov 38 back in 2002?
guess he never grows huh, always in his 30’s

GOAT

He was born December of 1969 so that would make hime 32 or 33 in 2002(32 most of the year and turning 33 in December)I dont see why his age is a big deal……..Its not like he is 40 and just getting into the game……we’re all gonna be 40 but what will be accomplish by that time?

Oh and if you check youtube with LL vs Kool Moe Dee you will see LL gets bodied on the second song……..

I think LL needs something like this to get his creative juices going. Remember hip hop was born in the cipher circles. Aint nothing like a good battle to see who’s the best. Nothing negative just a test of skill to see who’s the true GOAT. I like both LL and Jay. As long as it don’t become negative,it’s good competition. Don’t let the media make it something it’s not. Let them stop self proclaming “I’m the GOAT” and get on the mic and see who’s the GOAT. Michale Jordan beat Magic, Bird, Isaiah, Dominique, Clyde, Barkley, Shaq, GP & Kemp, and Stockton & Malone twice. That’s why he’s the greatest of all time. He beat those guys in competetion, not cause he claimed it. He beat the best guys of his era.

lol he really think he can mess with jay-z boy stop

roc bitches

so wut if u flip a couple words, i could tripple that in birds

wutever, hundred for the diamond chain/
cant u tell i that i came from the dope game?

chef, guess what i cooked/
baked alota bread n kept it off the books/

niggas wana bring the 80’s back/
thass okayyy with me thas where they made me at

man who can seriously fuk with this dude

hes already the goat next stop is the billy!

ll give it up —-> we dont believe u, you need more people!!! (and no gunit dont count)
(speakin of gunit, youd think mobb deep would warn this nigga of what hes bout to do to himself)

I like hip hop as much as anyone but you got to respects Jays work if the true test of a legend is his body of work then how can he not be a legend if 1 hot album every ten year average Nas and I don’t know the last time LL had a relevant hit album. (I guess a lot of you liked head sprung) are legends. I feel that the Nas had one of the best albums of all time and is lyrical a monster. But that battle with Jay was a tie at best Jay gave Nas sixteen bars not even a full song and then to put out super ugly, which was all fact. That battle was a tie at best. And as far as LL goes people don’t forget this is what he does. So, like he said he may Bernard Hopkins Hov, but in that process LL better not get Taylored.

Why is it that getting old or growing up is a badthing? Evrytime I hear someone refer to someone as old it makes me wonder were their head is at. I thought that the beauty of living was being able to get old. When did it become a fault instead of something to admire? I just would like to tell some of you younger cats something that was told to me by an O.G. “You don’t get this age by being a fool!” In this day and age any brother who can be successful and make it pass 30 should be congratulated not hated. I wonder if Pac was still ALIVE would these young cats call him OLD.

I didn’t know jay gave LL the business already.It will be very wise for LL to leave this alone. Jay-z will burn that nigga like there was no tomorrow.LL beat kool Moe Dee? Who the fuck is kool Moe Dee? He ran away from KRS-ONE. He never really beat canibus. The song he did just had a bigger buzz. Meaning that he had more media support behind it, not fan support.

Nas is the only person that gave hova the businesse ever in his career. Mobb deep has been throwing cheats shots for years.They never even faded the nigga. Fat joe been taking sideways since 99 and jay-z hasn’t even bother to answer that bum.Pun dissed him before unfortunately he died before the battle actually took off.I know pun would’ve won that one.Basically the point is this the person that can beat jay-z is either dead or they rolling are with him (I.e. Pun and Nas)

YOu young cats are jaded. Jay has stolen lyrics from everyone INCLUDING L “couldn’t bust a grape in a fruit fight”

Even Eminem said it, “I’ll do like cool j does and disrespect people that ain’t got nothin to do with it.”

LL lives for the battle, and has done so for years…

Jay, take a word from the wise, don’t even think about it homie… remember BAD, I’m notorius, I’ll crush you like a jellybean.

anyone wanna discuss hit me oldschooldee@yahoo.com

this would be a good battle alot of mufuckas is sllepin on ll cuz he hasent really been relevant as far as rap albums but the dude is creative and niggaz like 50,ja,and alot of otha niggaz have adopted his style and has had success,jay is lyrically better to me but i think ll has a chance cuz jay-z wouldnt battle him for a min just throw lil punchlines,and i dont care wat nobody said nas ripped da fuck out of jay about real shit but hov won cuz he has a bigger fanbase…ima ride wit ll he is a legend and knows how to get da job done…

I like that analogy bushwick(#7), don’t sleep on LL too many kats don’t do they home work!

I can’t even intake all this sh!t! Point is most folks up here too stuck in everyone elses thoughts!

Both dudes got money, both dudes got chinks in their armour and have been exposed, Jay may have the Def jam machine on his side cause he’s more current, but if LL says the right sh!t its a wrap! And dude has been perculating for a while cause phoney fans base the top spot on what? Thats what the G.O.A.T. album was all about (who outsold L.L.? Who has earned more money via music? and who has the hardest tracks?)

I can’t call it but if I had to I’d say L.L. has the advantage cause he has nothing to prove, but then again l.l. is at a disadvantage cause most people will sypathize with Jay Z and make excuses for him like folks are doin for 50!

@ 136…I understand your point BUT Sorry homie Mike never beat Magic! Its hard to compare a team game to an individual sport especially when Mike had the most underated star of his error Scottie Pippen! If it wasn’t for Pip hate it or not the Bulls might not have won one championship cause Magic was torching the defensive wiz Jordan! I wanbna say he had atleast 35 that 1st game then they switched assisngments so pip could cover magic instead.

@131 (gettin gwap) That could very wel be the scenario. You need a black face to sell a black product so jus like when Russell sold out they kept him around so it still had the appearance of a black business the same can be said about Jay… he’s simply a figure head!

@ 101 (JB) You value a chick too much jus like Jay did, thats the only reason he repeatedly beat people in the head that he hit off carmen. Real talk..so what He was hittin off carmen while nas was hittin off some other broads

Point is he ain’t lie at all in ether and he really destroyed Jay!

@ 118 (marq) funny you use the “lost one” reference…Jay swagger jacked Lauren for that one…lol!

YO Dead Prez… KEEP HOLDIN IT DOWN FOR BROTHER’S ON ANOTHER LEVEL!

Get ya info game up folks!

I’m not a fan of Jay Z cause he steal other people shit too. LL leave it alone my dude, he is gonna kill you on the rapping tip!! Thats a battle that I would love to see. LL might just give it to Jay, naw I doubt it though.

They both need to sit their old tired asses down somewhere. How old are they like 60 now?! LL is still sexy though!!

DETROIT ONE #11

Save it with all of the details!! Damn this nigga went on and on. Fuck!!

Woah!!! Let’s not forget who LL is here…Jay-Z still hasn’t accomplished half of what LL has saleswise ( total career sales). Not too mention the fact that LL isn’t just the “ladies’ rapper.” Jay could talk all the thug shit he wants, but lyrically him and L are roughly on the same level (except LL doesn’t have HALF as many “quotes” in his rhymes as Hov) where they differ is the fact the LL has been tested as an MC and has ended rappers’ careers (see Canibus,Kool Moe Dee, etc), where as Jay-Z gave re-birth to Nas’ career by tryin’ to dis him. Not to mention the fact that if it came down to a physical altercation, Joe Camel would get handled (LL is a pretty big dude and was a thug before it was cool to call yourself a thug…ask any Queens nigga over the age of thirty).

LL IS THE KING JAY Z IS HIS SLAVE BOY.

Okay i like LL and Jay But like we said Jay aint non of them 1 hit wonder nigga that he done messed wit. LL is nice but HOve will destory that nigga i ain’t even dick rydin i am just being real and logical. Jay-z V.S Ladies love cool james??

LL IS NOT A THUG.. the Most memorable quotes he has had are “paradise is never nice” “im bad” “Mama said know you out” “Crush you like a jelly bean” and Something about Strawberries.. I think a man just called another man pretty.